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Old 06-19-2007, 04:40 PM   #19 (permalink)
Jennifer
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Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
I'm an NT and have come to realise that the vast majority of us are overly secure in our own ways/views. We mostly deal with the outer world being so 'harsh' by separating and elevating ourselves above others - the literal definition of arrogance. We seek reassurance in our own superiority. Those that get unhealthy begin to take it out on others... the rest keep it inside. It still leaks out.
You're so wrong!!!!!



Actually, can we explore the notion of simultaneously being secure and insecure in one's views?

As I type this, I think the best way to clarify it is this:
  1. My faith in my conclusions is shaky.
  2. My faith in my reasoning process is absolute.
Are those two things compatible?

Arrogance I think is related to #2 but not to #1.

If I trust my reasoning process, how can I not trust my conclusions? Because I am aware that all data is faulty and/or incomplete... leading to ambiguous conclusions at some level.

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I don't think this is INT but INTP. I know it's certainly not INTJ.
I'll get back to you once I finish surfing the rest of the forum/Internet/checking my e-mail for the fortieth time today.

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The difference is that INTs are unlikely to behave that way unless they have invested a great deal into arriving at their conclusion. When the other person rejects it on a whim, the result is frustration, but justifiably so imo.
I very much identify with that. Few things make me more annoyed than people rejecting my ideas or even criticizing my intelligence or motives, when it's clear that they haven't bothered to really look at all the angles (if any of them) and I know I spent a lot of time thoroughly going through things beforehand.

And so the reaction sometimes has been an overblown "door slam in the face" or something else that comes off as "Smarter than Thou."
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