[Xander]

Wow I can post again!!!

Jennifer,
I do agree that on the smaller scales of analysis America is quite SP and in some arenas quite NT even! However the overall trend of the country is more congruent with the ESTJ type.

Take, for example, the city planning. Who but an ESTJ would design everywhere on a grid system with a "block" being the measurement of everything? The way in which roundabouts are a confusing thing because it means you have to negotiate other road users or how you can turn right when the lights are on red (that may seem intuitive but realistically any decent intuitive person would see that it'd be more helpful to general road use to have a right turn light in addition to the other three). How about the idea of northern connecting roads where to go north you have to travel south to pick up the northern road. An intuitive person would travel north believing that to go north you..err... go north. It'd have to be some kind of dictatorial type.

I believe that on inspection both styles of city, whether UK or US are STJ, that I'd reckon is in little doubt. The UK does have more history to incorperate, hence how the US can be so mapped out and done systematically. Of course if the system had been done from the start in a more intuitive fashion then the road system shouldn't need this idea of connecting roads and you'd see more ring formations around the city (kind of implemented in the UK but done as and when).

Anyhow, what part of ESTJ is not liked?
E - Anyone that would persist in arguing that America is not extroverted is ignoring the huge celebrations of pretty much everything. Plus there's the whole "new york minute" phenomenon.

S - Most countries scream S at me due to the micro management of things. Intuitive countries seem to move more as one than the S countries, though specific examples that I'm certain of escape me right now.

T - There could be the argument that the US is F, god knows there's enough emotional stuff coming out of it to drown masses, however I think that the minumum wage being what it is (ie absolute s##) and the huge problem of people below the poverty line kinda says it's less empathic and more 'target' orientated.

J - There's absolutely no doubt in my mind regarding this facet. Presidents apparently have to be spotless, christian, family men and no deviation from these principles will be tolerated. In fact in many ways tolerance is more of a luxoury than a common thing from what I've seen. That'd I'd see more as an indication of J than P in that the rules are clear and well defined with less room for deviance.

Oh and crowning glory of ESTJ... the war on terror. The whole crisis reaction where everyone and everything must now come under close scrutiny, despite them knowing that it can't stop determined terrorists, is very ESTJ. That much I am VERY familiar with in my job (more's the pitty). If the same had happened over here there'd be strong statements made and strong measures discussed but I very much doubt that any one would make sweeping changes in the manner in which the US has. That's not to say that action was bad but the actual actions taken have been misguided in several instances and overall only serve to look like the place is secure where as it's just as open as it always was.