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Originally Posted by Xander

Who said I was thinking of me? I know some Fs you know.

Squirm. You said it was you who just wanted to be heard.

Not always true. The people I'd class as a-typical extroverts (ie stuck on output) tend not to listen at all, yes their representative of a very small group but as far as I see it the pattern shows through most extroverts. Hence how part way through telling an extrovert your trouble they may well declare you an idiot and not wait to tell you either

There very well may be occasions where before you're done, I have come to a conclusion that what you did was idiotic. If you came to me and explained some instance where, in the beginning you decided to rob a bank, I would tell you you're an idiot, before you got to the point where you told me you felt guilty and gave the money to the children's hospital.

Further, what you're saying is that not all extroverts don't listen but that tendency exists in all of them. Can you make up your mind please? I actually disagree. I think the tendency could exist in anyone. You know very well that we can get caught on a word someone says that can send us into daydream land or on some kind of mind tangent - which means we're not listening anymore - only to come back realizing we've missed a lot of the story.

That is true. However what type would you say a person was if they stayed quiet and listened as a preference? E or I?

I can play your game . That person could very well be an Fe dominant person, which would be an extrovert.

That's not direct as some will take your actions as grovelling and a sign of weakness, stepping in for the kill. Giving is sometimes mistaken for an agreement of a return on the investment, such is societal norm but not a rule.

Thats true, some people do see it as a sign of weakness, but you know what? I see someone jumping in for the kill as a sign of weakness. I'll show my weak cards because I don't just want to win, I want to find agreement and accord. I show mine as a sign of non-aggression and you do the same. If someone doesn't meet my generosity in that way, then they are chalked up as the actual weak party in my mind and I don't need to win any more than I would need to win an argument with a child.

Let me see, the missus, by close mate Mike, Jon, Dave... ... Ellen, Shell... nah I completely ignore extroverts

My family are extroverts. It doesn't stop my favourite relative being the INFJ who rarely calls or visits and tends to forget things like calling back, birthdays etc.

I like extroverts and extroverted things (like cars) because of the feedback and because it's entertaining.

That's a lot more offensive than you realize, I think.

But I also like coffee, I still wouldn't use it as shampoo.

A bit more dramatic than the actual difference I think...