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Old 05-15-2008, 09:40 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
Shyness is only one possible product of introversion. It's not a guarantee. My INTP friend is more outgoing than I am, and I'm extraverted.

The Shyness of an introvert is only the result of their favoritism toward developing their own subjective interpretations (doesn't matter if it's Thinking, Intuiting.. as long as it's an Xi function) of the world, rather than actually dealing in the world.

Like dissonance said, it's entirely dependent on whether your first preference, feeling, sensing, whatever it is, is introverted or extraverted.

The shyness you're talking about might come from an introvert who's not quite confident in his introverted ideal and wants as little interaction with the world as possible because it continually skews the internal model. That's why introverts often prefer to be alone, but if you've got an introvert who IS confident in their own impressions, then they'd have no problem acting, and might not be shy. But they still also might be, if they happen to just naturally not be a social person, and instead spend their extraversion time with objects or toys or... whatever else -- not people.
This is why I like the way FIRO breaks interaction down into the three areas of Inclusion (social skills) Control (leadership skills) and Affection (deep personali skills).
The confidence you mention can come in any of these three areas.
"Introversion" normally might indicate a low expressed Inclusion. But the person can have a high expressed Control, in which they will be more confident in taking on leadership and responsibilities, despite even a social lack of confidence, or "shyness". I am certainly this way.

Since "Pragmatism" (a common trait Keirsey identified in both the SP and NT groups) appears to compare to expressed Control, then your INTP friend would have a high expressed Control, making him more outgoing at times. If you are NeTi, that would be ENTP and have the same pragmatism (im addition to the "E"), but I guess for whatever reason, you do not express as much as he does.

Again, I really wish people understood and could discuss these FIRO concepts, because they seem to tie together and explain A LOT of the stuff people are asking about.

Last edited by Eric B; 05-18-2008 at 01:46 AM. Reason: typos
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