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Old 02-06-2008, 08:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Recoleta View Post
Male ISTJ's might be more ok with a factory position because in general, those positions can earn good money and it's a solid, dependable job that will always be there...which is a strong appeal to STJ's. Personally, I don't think male ISTJ's really care as much what they do so long as it doesn't violate their value system and so long as they earn the salary that they want. I think they are good at deciding "This is work time, and this is play time" and they just stick to it. (Please, correct me if I'm wrong here...Hirsch or any other ISTJ male)
Ummmm...you do live in America,right? Dependable jobs that will always be there, the factory job at GM in Detroit that my grandfather had...those are G-O-N-E. It would appeal to me to have such a secure, predictable job but if my working life has taught me anything...these are gone if they ever truly existed at all. I have visited many factories as a delivery driver over the years...I find almost all of them brutally depressing. Dirty, loud, smelly, unsafe and inequitable. Then having to deal with the few inevitably screwed up co-workers around whom the world must revolve. Putting a nut on a bolt for twenty years has to numb the mind. And I grew up around Detroit, my friends and their parents and grandparents were "factory rats"...I saw all the consequences of this life. Factories are (especially unregulated ones) essentially Darwinian microcosms....

Being in a management position would be frustrating (or rather has been)...when my "crew" has beeen well trained and is doing top-notch work...I feel strongly that they should be compensated for improvement...and I have been caught in the middle arguing on behalf of my workers to no avail. That is depressing and irritating. Being expected to produce quality results without quality materials and facilities is a typical problem. Lying to customers about projected delivery dates and to employees about the same...and you are in the middle. It is largely thankless...unless of course you can be self-centered and unethical. There must be a MBTI type for this because I have worked for some of them. If you can focus on the bottom line only and ingnore all other matters in order to grow the business you should do well. Management is not a place for someone with a conscience, you will simply be driven mad.

Don't get me wrong...the work needs to be done. There are perhaps manufacturing entities that have addressed these problems successfully. Perhaps in Europe. Factories and the workers in them exist to enrich the lives of a privlidged few. CEOs that make 40 to 400 times what the average worker (without basic health care) does...undermine morale and rob the nobility from good work well-done. All the resources brought to bear a profit usually leave the community of origin forever denuding the populace and environment of recourse when the factory moves away. Being in the middle...seeing both ends (capital and labor)of the story dealing with the best and worst of people and possibilities just makes me crazy thinking about it as I type.

I am sure that there is a rational way to manage all these concerns...but that would require everyone involved to compromise...and I can't see that happening.
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